lost really said that your past doesn’t define you and that you are not irredeemable. you are still a good person even if you’re not perfect. there is a place where you belong and where you are loved, a place where you can be free. you are not alone and you never were. there are people in this world who will love and accept you no matter what and that connection is more important than anything. and then just expected me to be okay ????
“Of course Nat died it’s a tragedy.” “Of course Nat’s death was unsatisfying, it’s a tragedy.”
A well written tragedy will not always result in death. A well written tragedy will have a sensible arc from beginning to end. A well written tragedy will not leave you unsatisfied.
Barry is a tragedy (I just wanted to be safe), I loved Hank, I was not unsatisfied with his death. His own choices and refusal to be honest led him down the only road he could go down. Bly Manor is a tragedy (a love story and a ghost story are the same thing), it’s a metaphor for dementia and inevitably it resulted in Dani’s death. Red Dead Redemption 2 (eventually we all have to pay for our sins) is a tragedy and I sat down and cried for several minutes after Arthur died, but I was nothing if not totally satisfied with the end result, I wouldn’t change it if I could.
Each of these had amazing writing and build up and you perfectly understood that there was only one way for them to end, and it was satisfying to watch it happen, even if it was sad, even if it was in some ways upsetting, you knew it had to end this way and it satisfied you.
ALL OF THIS!!!! Perfectly summed up how I’ve been feeling in particular after watching the Succession finale— it couldn’t have ended any differently. All of the reasons the Roy children end up where they do is spelled out from the jump. And the conclusion was SATISFYING. So so so narratively satisfying.
Better Call Saul, with or without the context of Breaking Bad, is also a compelling tragedy. Amazing writing and build up to the inevitable death of Jimmy McGill, the rise of Saul Goodman and his inevitable downfall as Gene. The outcome was always going to be what it was.
There was no sense of “damn Natalie’s dead but like this particular outcome was inevitable, there was no other way this could go”. ESPECIALLY not in the cartoonish way it happens. There was never any tragic sense of impending doom for adult!Natalie.
And honestly with Yellowjackets (starting out) being about trauma and how it manifests well into adulthood, I don’t think any of the adult characters should have had any kind of inevitable, impending fate like that. It’s just so uninteresting and dissatisfying in the context of grief, trauma, mental illness, etc etc.
god and how FUCKED is it that the succession ultimately hinged on shiv’s choice, but it was actually no choice at all. your brother (empty husk groomed for power his whole life) or your husband (empty husk who craved power his whole life). for five minutes she had the most power in the room, but it was actually nothing.
the way shiv literally became her mother, the person she has always resented most. she’s trapped in a loveless marriage to maintain any power she can salvage, with a baby she doesn’t want, to a man who would rather be with his assistant.
what is a wilderness survival show without a deranged bearded man
I’m not gonna lie, the s2 finale was rather disappointing. With the way everything prior played out, I don’t think there was any way (for me personally) that this season would wrap up in a satisfying way.
So many aspects and beats of the season really just kinda leave me like “okay now what?” now that it’s over but not even slightly in a good way.
Gonna sit w my thoughts and try to go more in depth about like why in a couple days
I haven’t wanted to add anything to the Yellowjackets s2 conversation bc everyone’s been doing a great job at summing up the issues w the season. But especially after 2x08, it’s been EATING at me.
I don’t remember whose post it was but someone described it best saying “10/10 vision, 5/10 execution”.
We all know that a lot of these characters in ‘96 have to die at SOME point but A) the how should be the interesting part and B) the characters should feel more like characters when they do die versus placeholders for an impending death.
Yeah we all knew Jackie was gonna die, but how it culminated was a fantastic build-up and she was developed, we knew her so we got to feel the extra sting.
With Javi, who’s been there since the Pilot and granted he’s not a main character so I was never expecting him (or any of the guys for that matter) to get the screentime the girls get but you can do a lot with a little. He could’ve felt like an actual character. But nah, he’d been missing for nearly 5 episodes straight and then barely speaks and is irrelevant for the next 4 but when it’s time for him to die NOW we get to see his brotherhood w Travis, NOW he has a relationship with someone other than Shauna and Travis at the cabin, NOW he gets to speak. It’s just weak. Javi’s death sucked, it was hard to watch, and it’s such a good turning point for the story but it didn’t really make me feel anything like most of the plot beats in s1 and like plot beats are supposed to in a series!!
You can argue there’s not enough time in episodes to develop these side characters more (hell, even teen!Nat and Travis get sidelined a lot of the time) but there could be if we didn’t have all the new (boring) subplots in the present with the cops and Walter. Jeff eats a lot of screen time too but I digress.
And I guess the last point I want to address is yeah, another post mentioned that the entire discussion about the card ritual should’ve been a bottle episode and fuck do I agree. Not so we can understand and get spoonfed the rules but god there’s so much interesting character work that could’ve occurred in an episode like that. Character work that is NECESSARY in a show like this, in a psychological character-driven show about trauma like this.
I’m going to k*ll m*self in three months before I turn 28 bc at least getting to be in the 27 club will add some kind of ~something~ to my miserable little life and whatever ‘legacy’ I leave behind
So this is still the plan. 38 days. I want to talk to my mom about it but I have no idea how to start that conversation.
The reoccurring theme of being unwanted in your childhood and seeing yourself as some kind of monster and how you feel like you have to move mountains to get people to like you
i can’t get over fictional characters who are doomed by the narrative simply bc they wanted love and approval. it’s like the most tragic of greek tragedies to me because their fatal flaw wasn’t a flaw at all but rather a human instinct, a need. and despite this they were punished, stoned to death. is life so cruel to punish the most human of all needs? love?